Thursday, October 2, 2014

Masturbating for medicinal purposes...

If the title of this post doesn't give you a clue that this post will be on the "adult" side, let this be an official warning.  I'm about to get dirty.

Tonight, Bill and I were eating burritos in our living room.  The windows are boarded up and I had a burrito for lunch, so I was kind of grumpy.  And I got on the topic of how I think Jesus and God probably don't really care that much about a lot of things individual humans do.  For instance, I don't think Jesus gives a shit if you use a four letter word.  I mean, why would he?  Of all the things you could be doing wrong, why would your use of a vulgar word offend Jesus or God?  Don't they have other stuff with which to concern themselves?

I'm sure that if there is a God, he/she/it is truly omnipotent and has powers beyond human comprehension.  At the same time, why does it matter if I use the word "fuck", drink alcohol, or wear the wrong underwear?  I can think of sins that are so much worse than any of those things.

So anyway, this conversation Bill and I were having eventually turned to masturbation.  Bill was a Mormon convert and Mormons are not supposed to masturbate.  It's considered "self-abuse".  Mormons will tell you that masturbation is selfish and self-indulgent, because it's all about pleasure and self gratification.   It has nothing to do with enjoying another person or making a baby.

And the baby thing is what prompted me to post about this here on my blog.  We all know Mormons are not supposed to jerk off.  We also know they are encouraged to go forth and multiply the earth.  Now, Bill and I don't have kids together because he had a vasectomy before he and twatbag ex were LDS.  They had her son from her first marriage and then two daughters together.  They were broke.  And ex apparently got pregnant at the drop of a hat.  So Bill decided to get the snip and ex encouraged him.  Of course, once she married for the third time, she had two more kids.

But anyway, because of Bill's snipping, he had his vasectomy reversed ten years ago.  And we found out that when it comes to infertility treatment, porn is okay.  When he had to give a sample for post surgical testing, he was sent to a room with a dirty magazine and asked to provide one.  I couldn't help but wonder, given how Mormons feel about jerking off, if it's okay to jerk off for medicinal purposes like infertility treatment.

I posed this question on RfM and asked if this was sort of a "don't ask, don't tell" kind of thing.  When Mormon couples get infertility treatment, is it okay for the man to jerk off?  Or do they not do it because it's forbidden?

So far, the consensus seems to be that if a doctor or some other authority figure says it's okay, it's okay to jerk off if you are Mormon.  But even if that's the case, isn't it a problem getting over being told for so long that masturbation is sinful and then being told it's fine if it's for medical problems?

Personally, I have a feeling that 98% of Mormon males and very close to the same percentage of Mormon females masturbate, just like everyone else does.  It's the kind of thing that everyone does... like pooping.  At the same time, there's so much shame attached to it that a lot of people don't want to talk about it or admit to it.  I'll be honest.  I usually do it when I'm bored.

The thread I posted is turning out to be interesting.  One person has already posted about an ex sister in law who didn't know what kind of sample the doctor was requesting when s/he asked her husband for a "sample".  She had him bring urine instead of semen.  Fortunately, that particular couple didn't end up reproducing excessively.

Well, as I have pointed out a few times on this blog, I am now at an age at which my chances at motherhood are now pretty much gone.  Not saying it couldn't happen.  Am saying it's very unlikely and would probably require medical help, which I am not willing to shell out big bucks for.  So chances are good that I can only wonder about such things.  Still, it was a heck of a subject for the dinner table.

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